Canadian Greeks Disavow Golden Dawn Extremists

Greeks living in living in Montreal say they are worried and disturbed by the recent appearance of the Greek neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party in Canada, shortly after it opened an office in New York as part of a plan to reach out to the Diaspora for support for its racist, anti-immigrant, anti-gay, anti-Semitic, anti-bailout, ultra-religious agenda.

Nicholas Pagonis, President of the Hellenic Community of Greater Montreal, made his opinion clear: “Golden Dawn is a neo-Nazi party,” he said in a phone interview. “It’s a racist party. It’s anti-immigrant and (the party in Greece) has adopted violence as part of their activities.”

He said that his organization, which runs Greek educational, religious and charitable institutions across Montreal, will be reserving a special part of next week’s meeting to discuss the city’s chapter of Golden Dawn.”Golden Dawn has no place here,” he said.

At the same time The American Hellenic Progressive Association (AHEPA) disavowed Golden Dawn’s appearance in Canada. “Fascism has no place in Canada, where people including Greeks fight against violence and Fascism during Second World War,” it stated. AHEPA was founded 90 years ago to protect people from rascist actions and conflicts caused by the racist Ku Klux Klan in the U.S.


28 COMMENTS

  1. With regard to Golden Dawn, they are of course not “nazists”, both in the sense that their ideology is nothing like nazism and also in the sense that they actively rejected the label “nazi”/”fascist”, altough by now, 2012 it is probably painfully obvious to most quasi-informed people that labels such as “nazi”, “fascist”, “racist”, “xenophobe” are put on any white organisation that wants to look out for the ethnic interests of their own group. White people for example feeding starving white people is simply not accepted in a multicultural society. That is “nazism.”

    There is a Marxist policy of population replacement all across Europe, many cities now resemble the third world, where the indigenous population are being pushed out and replaced by foreigners, mostly third world people, this policy is celebrated by politicians and any dissenters are arrested and charged with so called hate crimes.

     The reality of the failure of these artificially created societies is kept from the people through a complicit media and state and media intimidation of truth tellers, although the internet has woken up many people. It’s the indigenous population that face persecution, inequality, oppression, and left wing hate and tyranny. Many immigrants know their elevated status and take full advantage of it, rubbing it in the noses of the indigenous population, which causes greater anger and resentment and a deeper fracturing of society.

    These Marxist do not hide their genocide agenda, one very senior front bench politician of the last far left Labour administration in the UK stated that ‘the British as a race aren’t worth saving’. Others stating that they have no problem with there being no indigenous people in Europe in the future, and that is one purpose of mass immigration, there are many others.

    Golden Dawn know all this full well and are fighting to secure their nation for their people, demonising them with the old tired and desperate Nazi and fascist label doesn’t wash anymore, they’re fighting for the continued existence of their people, identity, heritage, and culture, and doing so the only way they can because they know their political parties do not serve them, to hate them for doing this makes you the racist and a supporter of genocide.

    And regarding this ridiculous anti-gay spat, Golden dawn is not anti-gay for reacting when anti-christian leftist attack christianity.
    would you stand up and support the degrading of Judaism in the same manner you support the degradation of Christianity? If the theater play showed Muhammed as being gay, to provoke muslims, would you support it? I can assure you the rest of your anti-white anti-christian multiculti cadrè would not. In fact if there was a play about degrading Islam, “anti-fascist”(The actual fascists) would probably be attacking the theatre goers with knives and rocks.
    Despite the leftist/liberals insistance, people of European descent does not want to become a minority in their own countries. If this is not obvious then.

    Google : “White american minority 2042” -US census bureau.
    Google : “ethnic british minority 2066” -Telegrap.
    Google : “73% of ethnic british would be unhappy if UK became a white minority state” -Yougov
    Google : “This is not the Britain we fought for” -Telegrap

  2. As in Italy with Mussolini, the socialists are moving farther to the left-wing and turning into National Socialists. The government is not doing its job, so people turn to nationalists. The answer is economic freedom, capitalism, liberty and prosperity. Not a government that runs your life. Tear down barriers and set the Greek people free. Stop your lunatic march to the left.

  3.  Hey, you know, the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea is the freest, most democratic nation on Earth, much moreso than the stupid USA or Canada. I mean, hey, the word “democratic” is in its name! It must be true!

  4. Do you live in Greece Mrs. Karlsson? Do you have the slightest idea what Golden Dawn NAZIS are doing and want to do here? Do you accept the fact they want to sterilize disabled children? Do you accept the fact that they want to put out of the Greek School every non-Greek child? Do you accept the fact they kick people because they are Gay, or non-Greeks, or belong to left and communist parties, or they just say thing they don’t like? Because if you do, you ‘re a NAZI. too! What is this? Medieval times?

    Christ was sacrificed for SINNERS, GAYS, PROSTITUTES, FOR ALL OF US and even for people like you. Do you think he needs nazi scums and iconodule to stand up for him? Does God really need a district attorney? Are you serious? Really? 

    The end of Freedom and Democracy will come if this illegal gang of Nazi thugs known as “Golden Dawn” won’t be outlawed as soon as possible. They are not a political party. They are NAZIS, even if you hypocritically act like you don’t know that.

    Golden Dawn thugs are fascist uncivilized uneducated anti-Greek nazis. Great spirits of greek culture like Kazantzakis and Roides suffered because of them. If they lived in ancient Greece they would be the ones who would give hemlock to Socrates. If they lived in the time of Jesus, they woulb be the ones who crucified Him. If they lived in Byzantium they would be the ones who burned libraries and destroyed statues and slaughtered Hypatia. If they lived on 1821 they would imprison Kolokotronis etc etc.

    NAZIS AND HYPOCRITICAL NAZI SUPPORTERS SHAME ON YOU!
    You use confused uneducated Greeks as supporters. 
    REAL GREEK PATRIOTS WOULD NEVER SUPPORT THE NAZIS.

  5. no one stop but they will do their work…. because they are living in army camp and about 70% hellenic police is also covered from them. there members are not unemployment.
    it is increasing………
    they are socially protected from church also thats why no human right, plan international like international organisation could action….
    they can kill anyone, any age, like 13 years boy killed, 18 years of greek boy from police, after that 16 years again other boy from serbia killed by knife, can punching in social media to communist party, and so on…
    neo nazi the face to show the public, actually they are killer…. the foreigner who work here is hardly 20 euro perday…. and they are showing their action but they cannot do anything to any american or british or german or turkey.
    in short if US president will say go to your kennel, they will go immidiately hiding tail.
    Threats is first world war muslim verses christan from greek is the cause…. and continoue in second world war orthodox verses catholic is also in greek… now again economic crisis and these groups and again muslim… and again the public face is the shoulder of neo nazi of germany…
    FOR THIS GOD IS ONLY AMERICA…. SO WE PRAY TO THE GOD FATHER THE CLINTON AND BUSH NO WAR….. NO KILL…… PLEASEE….
    ALL THE GREEKS WHO LIVE IN GREECE HAS BEEN BRAIN WASHED FROM THEM AND CHURCH….
    HERE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS FOREINER…….
    THEY ARE KILLING EVERYDAY NO NEWS ARE GIVING….
    PLEASE SAVE GREECE REPUTITION AND GREEK HISTORY….. OTHERWISE THE NEXT GENERATION WILL BLAME NO CONTACT WITH ANY GREEK THEY ARE KILLER OR GENOCIDE………

  6. You are so naive and bereft of any intelligent meaning that I think you lack any understanding of humanity…go back to school… 

  7. I don’t support GD but many of the things you say are half truths and over simplifications.

    GD are pro-Greek. Its actually some of leftists that are treasonous and anti-Greek. Real Greek patriots would never support ILLEGALS in Greece…. they would never collude with IMRO.It is precisely for this treasonous behavior among some leftists that GD has received support. Most of the things GD supports are ridiculous but it has filled a void left by some treasonous leftist extremists. Until that void is filled by the left many Greeks will continue to flood to the far right.

  8. Too many cowardly unprincipled leftist extremists colluding with those trying to ethnically eradicate the Greek people has led to rise of far right extremist groups.

  9.  Where is the voice  of leftists like you against Nazism when it comes to IMRO and its NGO apologists? (that shamefully pretend not to notice their sudden identity change into “ancient macedonians” and irreddentism to cover up their shame for supporting them).

    Or is racism and attempted genocide ok when its only directed at Greek people comrade?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA

  10. Incidentally…appealing to christian religious myths is rather weak argumentation. In addition in ancient times GD would have been supported by many Greeks (especially spartans). Aristotle himself was racist.  Of course this does not mean their views were right in this regard but if you are going to argue at least try and get your facts straight.

  11. btw – Israel deports ILLEGALS despite that it has far far less illegals per capita than Greece. There are even Israeli vigilante groups that go around attacking illegals. The israelit government does even not allow marriages between Jews and non-Jews on Israeli soil. Jews have the Jewish National Fund to serve jewish interests alone.   Most Jews what an Israel primary want a jewish Israel. There are even Kache supporters in the Knesset (despite being branded a terrorist organization by the US which is Israels strongest supporter)

    Do you equally call such Jews  “Nazis'” then?

    http://latitude.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/15/israel-copes-with-illegal-immigrants/

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/10/world/meast/israel-immigration-protest/index.html

    http://www.france24.com/en/20120608-sudan-israel-deportation-netanyahu-yishai-immigrants-eritreans

    http://www.ibtimes.com/un-insists-israel-admit-black-africans-trapped-border-illegal-immigration-crisis-deepens-779989

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/158789

     ‘Our Goal is a State Without Illegal Aliens’ -Interior
    Minister Eli Yishai announced the formation of a special task force on
    illegal immigration to Israel; proposals in two months.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156564

     If you are going to go on about GD why don’t you equally criticize Israel state for supporting essentially the same policies as GD? Personally I think there is a clearly a double standard in hyperbole negative articles about Greeks that amounts to racism against Greeks. Another example of this is how those that references the former Yugoslavians as “Macedonians” now dishonestly pretend not to notice identity quick change into “ancient Macedonians” and irredentism.

  12.  Actually economically speaking he’s right. Even Hitler was effectively a socialist from an economic standpoint… but a socialist purely for Germans (thus the moniker “nationalist socialist”)

    We tend to frame fascists  as rightwing because of their anti-communist stances but this was chiefly because they conflicted with their nationalist views not as much their economic.  From an  economic standpoint fascists support government nonintervention just like socialists. Hitler and Mussolini unquestionably supported big government spending and taxation just like leftists.

  13. Pardon. That should say. “from an  economic standpoint fascists support government INTERVENTION just like socialists”

    ~ the editors.

  14. The Manifesto Of Golden Dawn8) “The state should have control over private property so that it is not dangerous for the survival of the People or can manipulate them.”http://xaameriki.wordpress.com/the-manifesto-of-golden-dawn/ How does owning private property become dangerous for the survival of the People?Does this mean that Greeks who own anything from a single one bedroom condo in the cities to vast amounts of land on the islands, that they will have to forfeit their property to Golden Dawn if they gain power in office?So while some Greeks who’ve worked hard and toiled their land over the years, they’ll end up losing their homes if GD becomes the primary party?

  15. Canadian way is tolerance.  If these thugs do not like such they have the freedom to go back and fight for the purity of ‘their country’. Socrates may be rolling in his grave!

  16. What’s wrong with America having a minority of white people?  Both the Americas had no white people 500 years ago.  Why is skin colour so important to you?

    Also, I can’t fathom a group in Canada or the USA made up of Greek IMMIGRANTS complaining about immigrants going to Greece.  It is so obviously hypocritical that it can only be the result of a profound ignorance.

  17. Wow. The nazis have been busy posting to this thread … and lying their asses off about their fascist, xenophobic agenda. Re the Spartans’ supposed affinity with these jackboot morons, let me say as a proud daughter of Sparti — no effen way, not now, not ever you gutless, racist, extremist thugs. Wherever you show up on this continent, you’ll get the welcome you deserve. And re the ‘socialist’ agenda of the National Socialists (nazis) — the fascist German state colluded closely with Germany’s biggest industrialists, who were all to happy to support an extremist party that murdered trade unionists by the thousands before they started murdering by the millions the disabled, the Jews, the Roma and everybody else they disliked in their tiny little minds. And don’t confuse GD’s rampant antisemitism with these same fascists’ tired right-wing conflations with zionism. There’s a reason a growing number of people of Jewish heritage are repulsed by Israeli/zionist policies of apartheid and dispossession — because they reject, as do all people of principle, this kind of irredeemable bullcrap.

  18. Golden Dawn is racist to the core, and yes you dimwitted fascist apologist, they’re neo-nazis — or perhaps you think they chose their logo accidentally. Of course, like all white supremacists, you’ll have a tougher time grasping just how corporatist their agenda is — note that while these crackers are piling on the fake populist rhetoric, they essentially back the same grifting elitist system Greece’s very own banksters think is A-OK. For actual fact-based info rather than the bogus fearmongering you’re promoting, try the links below:

    > BoingBoing: The Golden Dawn | http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/the-golden-dawn.html
    > Guardian UK: Golden Dawn and the rise of fascism | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/19/golden-dawn-fascism-greece
    > Guardian UK: Fear and loathing in Athens: the rise of Golden Dawn and the far right | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/26/golden-dawn-greece-far-right
    > Aljazeera: High police support for Greece’s Golden Dawn | http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/europe/high-police-support-greeces-golden-dawn
    > NYT: Europe’s New Fascists | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/opinion/sunday/europes-new-fascists.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

  19.  Zionism is a racist, exclusivist and increasingly genocidal political construct — one which growing numbers of people who identify as ethnic Jews are questioning and abandoning in places like the United States. Note that people of Jewish heritage have always worked as partners for the Palestinian right to self-determination in places like the U.S., as well. Clearly, there are people of Jewish heritage who continue to be in thrall to the ills of zionism, as there are Greeks who have fallen under the thrall of the neo-nazi ideology of the golden dawn shytes. And there are banksters with very deep pockets that support both these extremist ideological frames, because they enhance their ability to line their pockets. Screw fascism of every stripe.

  20.  That’s just daft. Of course, you have no evidence to produce to support your ridiculous claims, because there is none.

  21.  GD are not ‘pro-Greek’, they are pro-fascist. They have no compunction about beating, bludgeoning and trying to murder Greeks, along with gays, non-Christians, immigrants and anybody who doesn’t cow-tow to their nazi agenda. Wake up. Like all right-wing extremist groups, they work to deflect the core reasons for the complete disaster that is the Greek economy — predatory Greek capitalists and their paymasters and elected tools.

  22. “Zionism is a racist, exclusivist and increasingly genocidal political construct ”

    Most Jews would probably call you racist for your statements. I have to agree. You sound anti-semitic.

  23. You have no clue what your are talking about ignorant troll.

    Syriza is currently the highest polling party in Greece. Its a collection of parties made up of radical leftists. Its leader Alex Tsipiras used to part of the communist party of Greece. Moved on to become leader of another party that calls for Euro communism. That party joined Syriza coalition. Tsipias, the communist, its it leader.

    If communism is not “far left extremism” to you… than you are sick in the head.

  24.  How many Greeks have GD murdered dear?

    Now compare that to how many far lefitst extremists have murdered. You will find leftist extremists murder Greeks in far higher frequency. (allso see Greek civil war)

    I don’t actually support GD but I am tired of them being used as an excuse to support violent far leftist extremists many of whom are anti-nationalists extremists to the point that frankly they are racist against greeks.

  25. Hearing all those debates is funny cause behind all these names “neonazi” fascist” that belong to the imagination of those who fight against freedom and ethnic traditions , a greater danger is hidden and that is the extermintaion of humanity it’s self.

    And while every one debates ( known trick of divide and conquer) about that the New World Order moves to it’s realizes it’s definite plan of creating more ethno-fyletic problems as the want a people mass without any perticular color, race or whatever just a salad mix of people that they are able to control.

    Chemicals in foods, in the air and total subliminal and hyper wave affirmations are in aid of the NWO to make what’s left of the people unhealthier and obedient to what they say. But do not worry everybody your problems will end when these directions on what is right and wrong or politicaly socially correct will be embeded directly from a chip that very soon you will be forced to take.

    As about me, my 3 war tours expertise and weapon collection will give me a survival run anytime, anywhere under any conditions.

    Good luck and pray to your jahve god to save you.

  26. You need to learn to “read” history, and use words that you know the meaning of. You HATE Jewish People, say it. Why bother “babbling on” to justify your “hatred”? Know however, you hate YOURSELF most of all, for all humans are connected.

    A JEW.

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