Greek Community Hosts Event “Macedonia:The Historical Truth”

Greece is a modern state which comprises of most ancient Greek kingdoms with Macedonia being One.

I advise you attend the event to be better informed prior to making any statement based upon communist Yugoslavian propaganda. At present a major percentage of the global academic community agree on Macedonia being a Greek/proto-Greek culture.

FYROM Formerly Know as Southern Serbia then VARDARSKA BANOVINA (till 1944) The area occupied by FYROM was know in ancient times as PAEONIANS. CAPITAL: Skopje – It was a Roman colony founded in (81-96 A.D.) know as ScupiLANGUAGE: Slavic which is related to Bulgarian. ETHNIC: 60%Slav, 33%Albanian. HEROES: Josip Broz Tito the Creator(Croatian), Gotse Delchev(Bulgarian). St Cyril and Methodius(Greeks). INDEPENDENT: Recognised on 8th April 1993 HISTORY Copied from the Greeks and Bulgarians.

I’m afraid you cannot handle the truth. Here is what pro-Greek historian NLG Hammond has to say about the Macedonians:
“We have already inferred from the incident at the Olympic Games c.500 that the Macedonians themselves, as opposed to their kings, were considered not to be Greeks. Herodotus said this clearly in four words, introducing Amyntas, who was king c.500, as ‘a Greek ruling over Macedonians’ (5.20. 4), and Thucydides described the Macedonians and other northern tribes as ‘barbarians’ in the sense of ‘non-Greeks’, despite the fact that they were Greek-speaking. (Thuc. 2. 80. 5-7; 2. 81. 6; 4. 124.1) When it comes to political controversy, it was naturally good invective to call the king a barbarian too. Thus a Greek speech-writer called the Thessalians ‘Greeks’ and Archelaus, the contemporary Macedonian king, ‘a barbarian’. Demosthenes spoke of Philip II as ‘the barbarian from Pella’. Writing in 346 and eager to win Philip’s approval, Isocrates paid tribute to Philip as a blue-blooded Greek and made it clear at the same time that Macedonians were not Greeks. (Isoc. 5. 108 and 154) Aristotle, born at Stageira on the Macedonian border and the son of a Greek doctor at the Macedonian court, classed the Macedonians and their institutions of Monarchy as not Greek, as we shall see shortly. It is thus not surprising that the Macedonians considered themselves to be, and were treated by Alexander the Great as being, separate from the Greeks. They were proud to be so.”

‘The
town of Monastir, capital of the vilayet of Monsastir, lies just
about half way between Bulgarian and Greek territory. North, the
majority of Macedonians are Bulgar, south the majority are Hellenes.
The villages meet, cross, and mix in the Monastir vilayet. The
reason, therefore, we hear so much about disturbances at Monastir is
not because the Turks there are more wicked than Turks
elsewhere,
but because there is a persistent feud between Greek and Bulgarian
political religionists. Monastir
is an undistinguished, motley sort of
town
of some 60,000 nhabitants, 14,000 of them Greek, 10,000 of them
Bulgarian, four or five thousand Albanian, two or three thousand Jew,
and the rest Turk.”

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From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906),
chapter 20

400 world famous historians writes:

“The answers are clear:  Alexander the Great was Greek, not Slavic, and Slavs and their language were nowhere near Alexander or his homeland until 1000 years later.  This brings us back to the geographic area known in antiquity as Paionia.  Why would the people who live there now call themselves Macedonians and their land Macedonia? “” the government in Skopje to understand that it cannot build a national identity at the expense of historic truth.  Our common international society cannot survive when history is ignored, much less when history is fabricated.”

http://www.macedonia-evidence.org

‘”The
whole story about Ancient Macedonia sounds undoubtedly very nice.
However, there is a great problem, a huge hole
of
about 2,000 years during which we have neither oral nor written
tradition, nor a single scientific argument” – former Prime
Minister Ljubco Georgievski, FOCUS News, 31 March 2008

All this! is nothing more than modern greek propaganda!

To all those pseudo Macedonians who have been brainwashed by their government and interest groups. 

Please realise who you really are.

You are not Macedonians.

Please choose a name that identifies who you are as a people.

Not steal one from the Greeks, just because it has a proud and strong history and you want to make it yours for the purpose of creating tourism to make money from. And to one day make a move to invade the Greek Macedonians so you can have access to the Aegean Sea and to Thessaloniki so you can take our homes, our beautiful beaches, hotels and others things such as our mineral and gold mining in Makedonia.

I have seen your intimadating map of your desires to take Makedonia from us Greeks.

You have offended and are stealing from us what belongs to us in pride, soul and identity.

Who am I?

I am a Makedono. A Macedonian Greek

My grandparents spoke Greek in their villages in the mountains of Macedonia and of course  spoke some Turkish as they lived under the Ottoman Turkish Empire.

And might i tell you i can tell an Albanian a mile away from us Greeks they look mor like you Skopjians in a way. Have you ever noticed how the FYROM prime minister Mr Gruevski has asiatic looking eyes, it is because he has some Turkish Mongol blood in him.

Now for the name “Alexander”

A Greek name that means helper of men.

Phillip, a Greek name that means lover of horses.

I don’t see any “ski’s” or “nov” on the end of these names.

So stop being idiots and get yourselves a name. If you can’t i have some for you to choose.

ALBURIA (from Albania and Bulgaria) which makes up your ethnic background.

WANABIA (because you want to be something that you are not).

SKUPIA

or perhaps KLEFTIA

or simply VARDARSKA.

Leave my home alone, i am not seeking yours.

Dear Readers,

No where in history has a group conquered a nation and just imposed their langauage, beliefs, and laws. Not even when the British conquered Quebec did they force, or could force, the whole population to learn english as their main language. Yes, it was the language of business, but until the “Quiet Revolution” many French people outside of Montreal spoke french exclusively. The only time the British made a conquered area “english” was when they vanquished, remember Machiavelli’s “dispose and disposes” theory, when they sent the Acadians by the thousands to the now New Orleans area in order to fully, and properly conquer the French colonists. The same goes in Macedonia. Even if the kings were Greek, and the rest of the nation was non-Greek. The kings would have to learn the langauge of the locals, and follow their customs. An example of this were the Thracians that “adopted” Greek culture, but spoke a language entirely their own. Only through colonization by Athens, and Macedonia, were the Thracians “integrated” into the Greek culture. There are other cases as well in Asia Minor. Moreover, the Macedonians, like the Spartans, had their own “unique” culture compared to the “Ionian” Greeks, that were from the Athenian stock, or the “Aeolians”. The Spartans and the Macedonians were distant cousins as they both “invaded” Greece around the same time, and were known as “Dorians”. Remember that Greece, was not always inhabited by Greeks (that is in Herodotus as well, or JB Bury’s book titled “History of Greece”).

Remember that Herodotus was writing a book to propogate the Athenian “myth” of being the most civilised of the Greeks. It was a propoganda text at best. The facts are these”

1) If the Macedoians were not Greek, they definitely were not Slavs;
2) Philip, Alexander, and the other kings, especially Alexander, pushed the Greek culture throughout their conquered areas, not their ancient pseudo-culture.
3) Aristotle spoke no other language than Ionian Greek, which means he would have had to learn a barbaric langauge that he wouldn’t fathom based on his writings.

In short, learn your history because it is better to be considered a fool, than to open your mouth and to confirm it.

Epsilon +

Pure nonsense.  Ancient Macedonians self-identified as Hellenes… and were recognzed as Hellenes by other Greeks…. for CENTURES during pan-Hellenic sporting events (which at the time were reserved for Greeks)

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I’m afraid you need to dig deeper into your own ethnic Bulgarian past before lecturing your neighbours on history.

“Prior to the
creation of a Macedonian republic in 1944,most Macedonian immigrants viewed
themselves as ethnically Bulgarian and often referred to themselves as
Macedonian-Bulgarians or simply Bulgarians.While immigration records failed
to list Macedonians as separate category,approximately three-quarters of
those listed as Bulgarians were‍ from the regions of Kostur and Bitola in
Macedonia.”  – James R. Grossman,
University of Chicago